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Offline R44inCincy

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First annual on new machine - tips?
« on: 01/08/12 - 13:25 »
About to go in for the first annual (since I've owned it) on my 2005 Raven II. No complaints or squawks going in, other than a change to LED landing lights. What should I watch for or be skeptical about?

Offline SkidGear

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Re: First annual on new machine - tips?
« Reply #1 on: 01/10/12 - 12:35 »
How many hours has your A/C done? Will probably be able to give you more of an idea once they are known.

Offline R44inCincy

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Re: First annual on new machine - tips?
« Reply #2 on: 01/10/12 - 19:55 »
Good question. 2005 Raven II with 550 hours.

Offline SkidGear

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Re: First annual on new machine - tips?
« Reply #3 on: 01/13/12 - 12:55 »
Well, its one of those how long is a piece of string questions.

550 hours, depending on how many hours a year you do (I work on machines that are used commercially/flying school so they do a fair bit) but you might be up for any of the following:

*Gearbox oil drains/flush/refill. Due at first 100 then every 500 so you are only 50 hours off
* Lycoming SB388 valve guide check. Its due every 300 hours but should be done 100 hours after new or O/H engine so if it was done at 100, it wont be due again until 700. If it is due (at 600 hrs) then you may be up for a bit of labour if they need reaming. How are your warm downs?
* Lower clutch bearing lube. Again its a 300 hour item so will be due at 600, not an issue and only a 10 minute job on the 44
*Unless done previously, I'd expect some of the rotating parts up in the swashplate/head area to be starting to wear at around your hour mark. Might be ok, but again might need some adjusting of the upper/lower scissors.
* Engine baffles. Always crack on RII's but most can be repaired/replaced cheaply.
* How is your engine driven fuel pump? Puddle of oil under the a/c when its parked in the hangar from the clear plastic drain tube? (there is a thread on this forum I think) they are quite good, but I've seen a fair few starting to fail at around the 5/6/700 mark.
*All SB's done? Sprag Clutch SB79. Expensive if it fails that.

Those are just a few things off the top of my head. Hopefully it'll be a very straightforward annual and you'll have it back soonest. All the best.

Offline R44inCincy

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Re: First annual on new machine - tips?
« Reply #4 on: 01/13/12 - 13:24 »
Thanks--great info. I had heard about engine-driven fuel pumps starting to go. I may tackle that one. Aux pump seems to be fine and is the original one, so maybe I have a "good one."

Offline R.Leithman

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Re: First annual on new machine - tips?
« Reply #5 on: 01/15/12 - 11:19 »
Have your mechs look real close at the muffler under the heat shield..ie where the heat to your cabin comes from..as well as the exhaust risers on both sides..ie the 3 into 1 pipes..both places seem to get cracky around 500-600 hours. Be ready for an aux pump or an engine driven fuel pump soon...they just dont have the lifespan they should.

Offline coptermech

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Re: First annual on new machine - tips?
« Reply #6 on: 01/27/12 - 20:57 »
Keep an eye on your mixture control. It can start to get sticky because of corrosion inside the shaft. This will prevent you from hitting the full rich stop. If the gap between the arm and the stop grows then you have a problem. Remove it and send it to Marty at flightcraft in Portland. If you send it have them adjust the mixture, so the engine doesn't run so lean. This will preserve the life on you exhaust manifolds.

Offline Travis Warthen

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Re: First annual on new machine - tips?
« Reply #7 on: 01/31/12 - 13:49 »
Magnetos have an inspection at 500 hours, if you do not complete this you will likely develop problems with the ignition system.

If the ride is not smooth you may have them pull the blades and check the teeter friction. At around this time it could loosen up and effect the ride quality. At the very least lift both blades off the stops and independently move the up and down. If the hub moves at all the friction is far to loose.

Travis Warthen
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